Are you watching the new season of The Walking Dead? Opinion?
I am indeed! My overall general opinion? Even thought it’s only two episodes in, this season so far is six BILLION times better than last season.
Pros
-THE TREATMENT OF LADY CHARACTERS. This show has never been great at portraying their female characters as anything other than gross stereotypes, so the change this season is REFRESHING. Maggie is both a badass zombie killer yet still vulnerable and in tune with her emotions, and isn’t shamed for it. Carol is exhibiting more agency, and her exchange with Daryl in the first episode had me DYING, it was awesome. The writers have even wised up with Lori; instead of trying to tell the audience that she’s one thing where her actions on screen say another, they’re embracing the huge mistakes they made with her and framing it for her characterization. It’s totally working.
-The pace is so much better. Let’s be honest, the characterization of their characters has never really been their strong suit. It’s only because of the actors (i.e. Norman Reedus especially) that the characters are memorable. This show is, above everything, about the atmosphere of their enviroment. The show’s best moments are always the action scenes, and they haven’t failed to deliver so far. And with the Governor looming on the horizon, those action scenes are going to be great.
-That being said, even though the show’s strong suit isn’t the characters, they’ve done a MUCH better job with portraying the core group. The characters are not only much more cohesive and know how to work together, the toll that their existence is wearing on them is so much more apparent. I think the time jump has worked wonders and has revitalized the show, giving the audience more layered and complex characters to root for.
Cons
-The framing of the Andrea/Michonne angle. I understand that they’re trying to keep Michonne a mystery for the audience who’s never read the comics, but at the same time, I feel like they could have shown more of her while still keeping that mystery. I know we’re only two episodes in, so this is really just a slight nit-pick on my part. But I don’t think they’ve even revealed what her name is yet? What’s the harm in telling the audience her name so they don’t have to refer to her as the black woman with the sword?
-Again, this is slightly nitpicky, but I’m a little miffed that they gave Hershel Dale’s storyline. But that’s because I’m a canon elitist.
-While the show has been doing better with the characterization of the core group, they still failed with the prisoners in last week’s episode. Especially with the leader of the prisoners, he was really stereotypical.
-The logistics of the virus spreading within the prison. Obviously we know that everyone is a carrier of the virus; however, one has to die in order for that virus to be enacted, so to speak. So how did the virus take over the prison? Did a prisoner die of some sort of natural cause, like a heart attack, then reanimate? Was a prisoner somehow bitten? There were civilian zombies in the yard, so I’m guessing that the prison was being used as a safe shelter. Did civilians that were bitten go to the prison, looking for shelter, and died? That would explain how the virus spread so quickly in the prison, since typically, the virus is spread through bites, but if you look closely, the prison guards in riot gear did not have any bite marks. How did they die, and then reanimate? It’s just really confusing, and it’s bothering me that the group didn’t question the surviving prisoners about it.
Possible concerns going forward
-The Woodbury storyline. For those who haven’t read the comics, I’m not going to spoil it for you. But really, I am most concerned with how this is going to play out as a whole.
- The Governor is one of the most monstrous villains I’ve ever seen. I don’t even find anything redeeming about him, and I have a history of loving monsters. The actions he commits are horrific, gory, and sadistic, more so than anything we’ve seen on the show so far. I don’t know how AMC is going to be able to pull that off.
- From what it looks like, it appears that Andrea and Michonne will run into the Governor next week. This is not how it happened at all in the comics, and I’m worried about how they’re going to get the major players involved this story to the community. Again, I’m a canon elitist, and while I’m willing to give this show some leeway with foregoing canon (i.e. Daryl’s entire wonderful existence), I will not be okay with them changing the characters that are involved in this.
-While the show has been better with their characterization, I’m still terrified that they’re going to backslide and the lady characters are going to be one-dimensional offensive stereotypes again. What can I say, I suffer from TV Show PTSD, I’m always waiting for everything to become horrible.
shes-a-voodoo-child replied to your chat: A Song of Spoilers: My dad isn’t sure if he should keep watching GoT
No, that is absolutely worth spoiling if it’ll keep him watching. And ugh, Tyrion is so problematic but amazing and I like him so much but then again I like Tywin, so you know, adjust for my weirdness.
I was worried that he wouldn’t be able to get into GoT because it is more based in reality (he’s a hardcore fantasy fan, I mean the more mythical creatures like wizards and dragons and magic the better for him), and when he started expressing doubt about continuing with it, it’s like my brain went into DANGER SOMEONE IS GOING TO ABANDON ONE OF YOUR SHOWS mode and spoilers just started coming out of my mouth. But he’s never bothered by spoilers (he is genuinely perplexed as to why I yell at him when he tries to tell me the entire plot of a movie). I think I convinced him to keep with it, though.
And yeah, the Lannisters as a whole are problematic, but I like them as characters since they’re fleshed out and three dimensional and their personalities and their individual arcs and their arcs with each other all make sense. They’re definitely not my favorite house (HOUSE BARATHEON LEMME HOLLA AT YA) or even the most interesting to me (it’s a three way tie between House Baratheon, House Targaryen, and House Martell for me), but I understand why they have such diehard fans. Tywin probably is my favorite Lannister, and Tyrion…well, the further along I get in the books, the more other characters have taken his previous place as a favorite character (like STANNIS FUCKING BARATHEON and Sansa Stark and Theon and Asha Greyjoy and Oberyn and Arianne Martell actually to be honest I really kinda fucking love House Martell). But he’s still a great character, and I know that ADwD is probably going to test my views on him, but I’m ready for it.
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YES YES YES the comic book character parallels are something else that must be taken into consideration. Punk is simultaneously Batman and the Joker, and I can definitely see what you’re saying about Doctor of Thugonomics Cena.
Edge might be Cena’s greatest nemesis (right now, anyway, we’ll have to wait), but Punk is Cena’s greatest ring partner, period. Not even Edge brought out in Cena what Punk does. Edge and Cena had amazing chemistry, but Edge is the kind of man who always brought out the good in everyone he interacted with. As great rivals as they were, Edge as a character still doesn’t compliment Cena the way Punk does.
Punk and Cena will forever be intertwined, and like Batman and the Joker, they are destined to dance forever.
No, I think you’re spot-on about Edge being Cena’s greatest nemesis. There have been a lot of high-profile feuds for each guy, but nothing that equaled that epic buildup and blowoff. I think Edge and Cena specifically complimented each others’ intensity - Edge is the only guy I can think of that is just as balls-out intense as Cena, and that worked greatly to their advantage.
But the Punk/Cena dynamic is one that you get so rarely, those sort of legendary pairings (either partners or rivals) that transcend gimmicks. I can only really compare it to Shawn/Hunter or Flair/Sting or Raven/Sandman.
To be fair, I wasn’t watching wrestling full time during the Edge/Cena feud. I’ve gone back and watched their matches, but I honestly believe that in order to fully appreciate wrestling angles, you have to watch it as it’s going on. You can appreciate it, but watching it as it’s happening creates that incredible feeling we all get, when we know that we’re watching something that will become iconic. So I think that a lot of my opinions on the “Who’s the better foil for Cena, Edge or Punk?” is colored by the fact that I wasn’t watching full time during Edge/Cena, whereas I was and have been for Punk/Cena.
And you are totally right about Punk/Cena transcending gimmicks. I’m not going to lie, my heart went pitter-patter when you mentioned Flair/Sting, because God, talk about a feud that’s iconic. I think that by the time either Punk or Cena retires, they too will be in the company of Shawn/Hunter, Flair/Sting, Hogan/Savage, and Hogan/Piper in terms of Epic Feuds/Bromances.
# drea you are lighting up my life tonight # one day drea and i will go to a wrestling event together # and we will run into punk and cena together # and i will fall to the floor # curl up in a ball # and just sob at their feet while drea tries to pull me away from them # i will be arrested # and the police report will say 'defendant kept muttering 'babies' under her breath' # and it will be a good time # it will be a good time # the antihero and the superhero who loves him # meta
shes-a-voodoo-child replied to your post: shes-a-voodoo-child replied to your post: Oh my…
Nooooooo Ayn Rand? Seriously? Ashley bb, put down the crack pipe plz. I will stage an intervention. With banners, if need be. (I kid. If anyone could make me consider Ayn Rand in relation to Superhero Boyfranz, it’s you.)LOL I knew that would be your reaction, and I’m not saying that the Superhero Babies are exactly like Howard/Dominique (because eww gross Rand was fucking terrible at writing male/female relationships and by terrible I mean super fucking misogynistic).
But I have a theory (and it is not bunnies) that the reason why Punk and Cena gravitate towards each other because they know that the other could be so much more than they are now. Punk knows that Cena could be more than the generic babyface of the company, but takes the easy road instead. Cena knows that Punk could be more than the selfish egotistical asshole, but hides behind his demons instead. Which reminds me of the overall theme of The Fountainhead and of Howard/Gail relationship as well. Two men, standing apart from everyone else, forever dancing with each other in an attempt to make the other one see.
Hmmm, see that last line is giving me The Killing Joke feelings. Because while yes, Punk rings as Nolan!Batman, the hero that we deserve, but do not need right now, in other ways, he’s the Joker, the self-made man of a thousand origins, doing this dance forever with John. In another world, where Cena isn’t tied to the Superman gimmick, he’s more like his original Doctor of Thugonomics, who hates to see Punk out on the ledge alone when he can do something about it. Another guy who dwells on his “one bad day”.
YES YES YES the comic book character parallels are something else that must be taken into consideration. Punk is simultaneously Batman and the Joker, and I can definitely see what you’re saying about Doctor of Thugonomics Cena.
Edge might be Cena’s greatest nemesis (right now, anyway, we’ll have to wait), but Punk is Cena’s greatest ring partner, period. Not even Edge brought out in Cena what Punk does. Edge and Cena had amazing chemistry, but Edge is the kind of man who always brought out the good in everyone he interacted with. As great rivals as they were, Edge as a character still doesn’t compliment Cena the way Punk does.
Punk and Cena will forever be intertwined, and like Batman and the Joker, they are destined to dance forever.
# AND ON TOP OF ALL THE PARALLELS BETWEEN THE CHARACTERS AND THE MEN PLAYING THEM # YOU CAN USE COMIC BOOK CHARACTER ANALOGIES TO EXPLAIN THEIR RELATIONSHIP TOO # BABIES # MY PRECIOUS SUPERHERO BABIES # also drea is the only person in the world who understands me right now # the antihero and the superhero who loves him # meta
shes-a-voodoo-child replied to your post: shes-a-voodoo-child replied to your post: Oh my…
Nooooooo Ayn Rand? Seriously? Ashley bb, put down the crack pipe plz. I will stage an intervention. With banners, if need be. (I kid. If anyone could make me consider Ayn Rand in relation to Superhero Boyfranz, it’s you.)
LOL I knew that would be your reaction, and I’m not saying that the Superhero Babies are exactly like Howard/Dominique (because eww gross Rand was fucking terrible at writing male/female relationships and by terrible I mean super fucking misogynistic).
But I have a theory (and it is not bunnies) that the reason why Punk and Cena gravitate towards each other because they know that the other could be so much more than they are now. Punk knows that Cena could be more than the generic babyface of the company, but takes the easy road instead. Cena knows that Punk could be more than the selfish egotistical asshole, but hides behind his demons instead. Which reminds me of the overall theme of The Fountainhead and of Howard/Gail relationship as well. Two men, standing apart from everyone else, forever dancing with each other in an attempt to make the other one see.
# shes-a-voodoo-child # whoops # there goes some feels bleeding out # no really though # there are parallels # I PROMISE THERE ARE PARALLELS # the antihero and the superhero who loves him # meta
shes-a-voodoo-child replied to your post: Oh my God where do I even start with this manifesto?
The Ship Manifesto comm on LJ had a format as a suggestion; IIRC it went something like Show Info, Character X Intro, Character Y Intro, Major X/Y moments, Favorite Quotes, Why You Ship, Recs. But seriously, the gross sobbing works too.
I’ve read that community before, and the format is an excellent suggestion! I’m slowly getting an idea of what I want to say, and even though this may sound far-fetched and ridiculous, they almost remind me of The Fountainhead. In a way. Hopefully I can explain it fully.
shes-a-voodoo-child replied to your post: Oh my God where do I even start with this manifesto?
Also, OMG HISTORY OF WRESTLESHIPPING. *grabbyhands*
ANYONE WHO THINKS THAT SHAWN/HUNTER WAS THE FIRST WRESTLESHIP NEEDS TO GO BACK AND LEARN THEIR HISTORY. BECAUSE WHILE HOGAN/SAVAGE WERE CLEARLY THE FIRST MAINSTREAM WRESTLESHIP, THERE HAD TO HAVE BEEN A FIRST. PERHAPS RIC FLAIR/ARN ANDERSON?
# shes-a-voodoo-child # drea i fucking love you # i love how you jump on board with my ideas # you complete me # meta # wrestling # fandom
Superhero Boyfranz and OT3 of History and Legacy, because this week has sucked and you feel my happy place.
I’m going to save the Superhero Boyfranz for a ship manifesto that can be rebloggable. Because it is time that I write it, and my feels are so frenzied that it needs its own post. For now, I’ll just say that the lines of shipping are so blurred with them that I ship them both in kayfabe and “real life” too.
But the OT3 of History and Legacy! Gurl you know they’re our babies. The three of them are so great in their own individual way, but put them together and it’s magic. Any combination of them, Shawn/Hunter, Taker/Shawn (which you know I’m partial to), Hunter/Taker, the three of them together…it’s not just magic, but it’s really just like a soap opera with Shawn in the center of it. The glue that holds the triangle together, the one that Taker and Hunter orbit around. I really don’t think you can have any of them without the other two at this point in their careers. Taker, in my opinion, began his path to greatness with his feud with Mick Foley, whereas Shawn obviously became a star thanks to Bret. Hunter’s ascent is very much different, whereas it was his marriage to Stephanie or Shawn’s retirement that gave him his chance. But at the end of the day, it is the three of them together that defined their individual legacies.
Wrestlemania 28 was the cultivation of their history and their legacy. And it was one of the most beautiful moments I’ve ever seen in all the years I’ve been watching wrestling. Our weekly gross sobbing about the match build-up was one of the most fun times I’ve ever had being a fan. In a nutshell, while the three of them achieved greatness on their own, they are immortal when they’re together. And legends, especially these three, will never die.
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No idea if you're someone who gets excited about stuff like this, but what were your thoughts on the deleted Nagron scene? Because I thought it was awesome and perfect and insert a loooooot of feels and I love all the meta that is floating around about it, but I'm curious about your thoughts :)
I do get excited about deleted scenes! And I have to say that the deleted Nagron scene itself wasn’t incredibly significant and it makes sense why it was cut, what I absolutely love is the fandom’s response to said scene. Spartacus is one of the most intelligent TV shows I’ve ever watched, and the fandom follows in the same suit. Flyingthebanners’ meta is SPOT-ON and perfectly worded, but what REALLY amazes me is that I don’t think the writers intended this scene to be an example of character development, but the fandom TURNED it into an example of character development. Spartacus as a show has constantly delivered thought-provoking and incredibly deep scenes/writing throughout its entire run, and as such the fandom is almost conditioned in a way to examine each and every scene as if it is character development, even if it wasn’t what the show intended at the time. Does that make sense? Basically TL;DR the scene itself was cute but it was the fandom’s response to it that really makes me love it.
Ummmm Jon/Stannis? IDK WHAT YOUR OTPS ARE BESIDES THEM AND SCIENCE BROS
Ugh oh God there is such a lack of Jon/Stannis in A Feast of Crows and it is making me super sad I just want Team Honorable Sexually Repressed Warrior Kings is that too much to ask.
I also have a theory that Jon fascinates Stannis because Jon is everything that Stannis strived to be but he also envies him because people love Jon for the very thing that they despise in Stannis and you can’t tell me nothing.
AND IT’S OKAY, IT’S HARD TO KEEP TRACK OF MY OTPS BECAUSE I AM SUCH A MULTI-FANDOM SHIPPER IN GENERAL. A small portion includes
-Charles/Erik, X-Men: First Class
-Richard/Jimmy, Boardwalk Empire
-Agron/Nasir, Spartacus
-CM Punk/John Cena, WWE
-Simon/Alisha, Misfits
-Caroline/Tyler, The Vampire Diaries
- Buffy/Herself, Buffy the Vampire Slayer
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I don't actually KNOW what your BE otps are but please educate me!
RICHARD/JIMMY. ALWAYS AND FOREVER. THE BROS THAT SCALP RACISTS TOGETHER WILL ALWAYS BE TOGETHER IN MY HEART. Because they are the only ones who will ever understand a semblance of what the other went through. Because their kinship goes beyond an exchange of goods, whether those goods be currency or liquor or political power. Because even during his extreme downward spiral, Jimmy still saw Richard as his equal. Because Richard loved Jimmy enough to let him go, even though Jimmy was his only link in the world left. Because at the end of the day, they would have fought for each other right down to the last bullet.
In a very much platonic sense, I ship Chalky/Dunn, Gillian/Richard, and Nucky/AR.
I also ship Nelson/Freedom from his repressed childhood, Angela/Happiness/Agency, Gillian/Sound peace of mind, Margaret/Power, the Boardwalk Ladies/Freedom from the misogyny held by the man who created them (still side-eyeing you, Winter. Still side-eyeing you).
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